Missouri's Youngest GOP Delegate Says It's All About the Jobs
While President Barack Obama won big with young voters in 2008, Jefferson County's Cody Baker doesn't see that happening this time around.
TAMPA, FL — When President Barack Obama was swept into office in 2008, a large part of his victory was because of the historic level of support he received from young voters.
Exit polls from that election show that 66 percent of voters under 30 cast ballots for Obama — more than double the 31 percent that Republican John McCain netted. That gap was the largest since exit polling started in 1972.
But Cody Baker, a student at Southeast Missouri University and the state's youngest delegate to the Republican National Convention, says Obama is not going to achieve that level of the success this time around.
The reason? Young people are worried about getting jobs when they get out of college, the 20-year-old from Jefferson County said.
"There are a lot of people who were in my high school in 2008 who supported Obama — even though most of them couldn't vote," he said. "They have turned and have said that was not a good choice. They’re tired of feeling like they have just been forgotten, so they’re ready for some real change."
"We want to have jobs whenever we graduate from college and the way conditions are right now, that’s not the way it’s going to be," added Baker, who is a junior at SMU. "We’re going to be graduating from college and flipping burgers at McDonald’s. While that’s a great place to start, we have a college degree and that’s not where we need to be."
Baker added that many students he knows plan to vote for Republican Mitt Romney in November and that he doesn't see Obama coming close to winning the youth vote by the same margin he did four years ago.
"Unemployment with young people is very high and we’re disappointed with the way things are going," he said. "Obama did take the young vote in record numbers last time, but this time he’s losing that margin very quickly."
A recent poll by by CNN/Opinion Research indicates that Obama's support among young voters does appear to be softening. That poll shows Obama leads Republican challenger Mitt Romney among registered voters by a 56 percent to 37 percentage margin. That's still a hefty lead, but it's down from Obama's margin of victory in 2008. Plus, there's no telling how many young people will actually show up at the polls in November.
In addition to being worried about jobs, Baker said young people are troubled by the national debt — which now stand about about $16 trillion.
"They’re tired of more and more debt," he said. "What’s happening now is being laid on us to take care of later, and that’ s not the way it should be taken care of.
"We don’t need to have the debt taken care of by us or our kids, or our grandkids," Baker said. "It needs to be taken care of now."
Joe Peters
10:08 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Maybe we would have more jobs by now if the Republican Congress had not blocked every single solitary proposal Obama has put forward in last three years, ya think?
Ed
12:01 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Democrats held the house and senate for the first two years of his term. Can't use that excuse, I guess.
Sean
1:43 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Do you mean his proposals in his last two terms to increase the debt with more handouts to bankers and decrease the jobs with carbon taxes? Those proposals?
Or do you mean the first two years when he had a super majority in each house and did nothing to improve jobs, increased unemployment and failed to keep most of his promises?
By the way what happened to hope and change and his new way of getting things done by building consensus? Was that line all just bull@@@? If he was serious why did he run the one of the most partisan and divisive governments ever? Shouldn't he have been working with his opposition like he said to get things done? And what was with all the czars and rule by diktat? And what was with all the stepping on the toes of state rights? No Joe - he was the architect of his own failure.
JWS
7:00 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
I thought Obama was the great organizer who would bring everyone together and unclog Washing ton DC. He has created more division than any other modern president and he alienated congress - even his own party voted against him!
There is a 9% unemployment rate (those still looking for work) but 16% of the US is our of work (7% who are not looking for work any longer). Obama is responsible.
fool for the city
10:50 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Thats great Vote Romney and get a Good 8 dollar a hour Job after you grduate college
Cody Baker
12:52 am on Monday, September 24, 2012
cause that makes sense! Since the average American wage has gone down under Obama... along with unemployment going up! Hmmm...There are now 495,000 more unemployed American than there were in 2008, up to 8.1% from Inauguration day (43 months). That is the longest unemployment has ever been above 8.0% since the Great Depression. The Middle Class average income has dropped and gas has gone up. Home values continue to fall, college tuition is up by 25%, 15 million more Americans are on food stamps (up 46%), and our debt has increased by $5.4 trillion (up 51%) in Obama’s first 4 years. How is Obama helping?
joy todd
11:47 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Don't be fooled by Romney he has not laid out a plan to increase jobs. That is the same line Rock Scott had in Florida and where are the jobs.
Devon Seddon
2:33 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Does he have a plan to increase unemployment from 5.4% to 8.5%? Or maybe a plan to tax away an un-countable number of the jobs?
Your guy promised jobs, then gave your money to the wealthy for bonuses, and increased unemployment by more than 50%. If you want to ask where are the jobs, start there. How blind can you be?
Rockwood 25
4:04 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Romney has said he has a GOAL and a high one at that. Well, we can all have goals. Getting there is quite a different issue. If he has such a great plan, I'd like to hear it. I'd like to know why he has let the country suffer for the entra 6-8 months while he touts his great blueprint without giving it out. If he announces it and it is implemented and it works, he gets the credit. It was his publicly announced idea. Why let the country move slower to recovery than it has to? Why keep the secret? Sounds like smoke and mirrors and empty promises.
Devon Seddon
10:44 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
That's exactly right. But you believe in a "goal" that has raised unemployment from 5.5% to 8.4%. So how about we give someone else's goals a chance.
We already saw how smoke & mirrors works with this administration.
Cody Baker
12:53 am on Monday, September 24, 2012
what was that? http://www.mittromney.com/jobs
B
11:57 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Let's continue to change this country into a socialist country just like Obummer planned. High unemployment, more people on welfare means more government handouts. This is making people lazy and that's the way Obummer wants it so more people will rely on the goverment to take care of them.
Ed
12:02 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
It's a simple question... Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?
Jim
12:46 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
yes
RDBet
1:08 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
I'm better off.
Sean
1:50 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
No. unemployment is higher than when he took office. Its higher than when the economists said the recession "ended". Those green jobs? All a scam - they are not sustainable without government handouts, and we could not even afford to keep the handouts going now.
The debt is out of control and the deficit is climbing. Who is going to pay that bill and when? How many cuts will happen when this hits the wall? Is Obama being stupid or does he just not care? You know who will be stuck with that bill, and it won't be comrade Obama.
Rockwood 25
4:08 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Speaking of government handouts? Exactly why is the GOP so intent on continuing oil subsidies? When the industry was fledgling, it needed it and rightly so. For too long now, they've stood proud, been extremely profitable. The government lets them use land for a tiny fee, builds the roads into far off places where no road is otherwise needed and then the government must maintain the roads. Then the oil companies pump the oil and...they own it. They sell it on the world market to the highest bidder. The US is only their conduit. We pay for the infrastructure, they take the profits and the US oil supply is further depleted. Why should we give them subsidies? Why should we pay for those roads? They should pay a fair price AND the taxes that go along with the income.
Rich Pope
6:39 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
The country is worse off. Look at gas prices, look at the prices for a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread or a carton of eggs. Look at the unemployment rate. Look at our national debt. Look at our problems with Iran and unfair trade with China. How many new trade agreements have we forged? China managed to breech our mainland defenses with a stealth submarine. Russia has done the same in the Gulf of Mexico.
Tim Millerick
4:18 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
4 years ago...no - that was the worst of the current recession/depression
5 years ago - yes much better off.
TARP was the beginning, and then it all went downhill from there.
Sarah Mitchell
5:05 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Yes I am doing a lot better today then I was 5 years ago, my business, have exceeded my expectations. I look forward to the next 4 years to reach that $150,000 mark. YES YES YES!
PaulRevere
5:59 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Bulletin: Based on TIM's great comments.
Read this ALL-- You'll learn something.
(All after the most devastating event on American soil-WorldTrade center)
Bush gave us 5.5% unemployment
Bush gave us 14,000 Dow average record highs.
Bush gave us $1.89 Gas prices.
Bush gave us 1 war (iraq) Afghanastan is Obama's war-His right war Let's not forget that. A war that is still costing us big dollars added to Debt.
You know why Obama keeps the troops there?
Because he would have 15% unemployment if he pulled them out Today.
(send them home with No Job? added to unemployment rolls?) (That folks is exactly what Lyndon Johnson did in Vietnam) 600,000 men left in a war for no cause other than keeping the unemployment rate low.
How can any Obama supporter who is against wars , allow such an escape hatch for this President.
You should all be screaming as 1) GITMO remains open 2)We are still in Afghanastan. 3) Why is there no job hooplah! after killing OsamaBin.
Osama Bin Gone and GM back WOW! Great accomplishments?!!!!
As an old ad from Wendy's said "WHERE'sTHE BEEF"?
B/T/W Didn't Obama INHERIT the GREATEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.
Funny, how he never admits that.
Devon Seddon
5:40 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I wonder how Sarah's competition is doing. Does she still have any? Just curious, cuuzzz, she's doing great, but when I drive down the Rock Road in St Ann, or Mexico Rd in St Peters, I'm not seeing thriving business, I see empty buildings. People with a goldmine business of owning a strip-mall that can't make the payments. That's what I see.
Hey, wanna go to the outlet mall in Warrenton? Oh, there's nothing there? Wanna buy it, then?
Devon Seddon
5:42 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I assume that $150,000 is profit, I wonder if she'll get there if she spends more than she makes.......
Cody Baker
12:56 am on Monday, September 24, 2012
Hmmm...There are now 495,000 more unemployed American than there were in 2008, up to 8.1% from Inauguration day (43 months). That is the longest unemployment has ever been above 8.0% since the Great Depression. The Middle Class average income has dropped and gas has gone up. Home values continue to fall, college tuition is up by 25%, 15 million more Americans are on food stamps (up 46%), and our debt has increased by $5.4 trillion (up 51%) in Obama’s first 4 years. How is Obama helping? I had to really search for a job... I can't get through school without loans but when I do get them, I will be paying them off for years. What has Obama done to help any of that? NOTHING! 4 more years of Obama would be asking for more destruction of the American Economy and the American Dream
Diane
12:04 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Yes, Romney has laid out a jobs plan. You just haven't bothered to read it. Mitt knows how to create jobs. And the truth is that Obama HAS NOT put forth a jobs plan that is worth passing. Conservative politicians have a moral obligation to stop worthless plans that don't work and cost us money. If Obama had ever held a real job he might understand how things work. Romney/Ryan 2012.
Rahib
4:25 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Really? As Governor of MA, their job creation ranking was 47th. As a businessman, he laid off more than he hired as a larry the liquidator.
RDBet
5:00 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Yeah, the GOP jobs plan is to cut taxes for the wealthy (investment income) and then a magical trickledown is supposed to occur.... Even though it hasn't worked with the Bush top-heavy tax cuts - the cuts that factored in the economic bubble and then meltdown.
Devon Seddon
5:30 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
No, the GOP plan is to cut government waste, cut taxes for everyone, and yes that includes minorities & those that provide jobs, balance the budget, etc. (you mentioned "hasn't worked", but you didn't mention that the current plans don't have any positive results, in fact, you can't explain how they could possibly even work - big government has never worked, ever, anywhere - the idea of spending our way out of debt might be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said or thought - how endlessly attacking job providers can decrease unemployment).
You always mention Bush & how his policies failed, yet you forget WHY he did them and how the House & Senate wouldn't let him continue to fix it, starting with Fanny-Freddie. You leave out that those moves caused the bubble that bought us time to try & fix what had already been broken by those in the House & Senate, and that HE, all the way back to 2001, 2003, & 2005, was the one (along with McCain) warning them that the crash was going to happen. The Democrats (some of which were making money from it, including Barney Frank, Obama & others), laughed at him like he was crazy (like you've been trained to do), and I'll be darned if it didn't happen.
Again, you either don't know (in which case I'll get you some episodes of C-SPAN & show you it happening, which probably wouldn't matter to you anyway, you'd still be right), or you are blatantly lying. Which guy you want to be?
Oh, and where do I send you the C-SPAN highlights?
Devon Seddon
6:08 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Rahib, you missed the point, that's what ALL businesses have had to do. Blaming the businessman's reaction to being screwed, only means you are looking at the process 1-step too late. You're blaming the result & ignoring the cause.
RD mentions how Romney is for the rich, yet he doesn't have a problem with it (or ignores it) when the current President is owned by the 1% & paid them back with our money.
Check out this 1% -
George Soros, Warren Buffet, AIG, Goldmann-Sachs, Fannie-Mae & Freddie Mac, General Motors, Chrysler, Bank of America (from Countrywide on down), CitiGroup, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, GMAC, Morgan Stanley, FHA, PNC, US Bankcorp, Suntrust, Capital One, Regions Financial, Fifth-Third Bank, GMAC, Chrysler Financial, and tons of others.
Obama gave Trillions & Trillions of dollars to those entities (not the rich, the WEALTHY) & insider traded on that information, but NOTHING to the middle-class.
Need more 1%?
All of Hollywood, the Green movement (when we have access to free, clean, abundant power, mind you), the Unions, nearly every sit-com, nearly every news outlet, nearly every newspaper....
How long of a list do you need?
* More Occupy people showed up at the DNC to protest, than the RNC, look it up.
* NOW is also protesting the DNC because they refused to allow children on the Convention floor & provided NO daycare options. They must've been too busy telling people they're on the side of women, instead of actually being on their side.
Devonte
12:32 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
If you want to know "The Truth" check out www.victorylifebooks.com
Earl Higgins
4:49 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Nice try, Victory Life Books peddler.
Devon Seddon
5:31 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I'm with you Earl.
If you want to see "The Centerfold", check out: www...............
NCK
12:35 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
Romney claims to have a plan that will create 12 million new jobs. In four years that's a rate of AT LEAST 250,000 a month from the moment he takes office. That would be extremely hard to do.
22 million jobs were created under Clinton and that averages to about 230,000 job a month for eight years.
If Romney meant 12 million new jobs over eight years, that's at least 125,000 new jobs a month. Obama has created an average of 130-140,000 new jobs per month over the last 27 month of positive job growth.
#facts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-remarks-on-worst-job-growth-did-he-end-it-or-should-he-own-it/2012/05/18/gIQAkDKCZU_blog.html
Sean
1:53 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
The washington post? WTF? Serious?
Why don't you just ask Obama's wife to grade his report card.
Devon Seddon
7:16 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
If Obama has created all those jobs, how is unemployment over 8%?
Did you check the Post-Dispatch too? They also "shape the news as we see fit". A quote from an editor over at that rag.
PS - Quoting the media? They have NO INTEREST in getting you the truth.
Rockwood 25
4:16 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Curious, Devon, where do you get your facts and other info?
NCK
10:18 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Sean, Devon,
Just citing my opinion unlike you guys. The Washington Post gets their jobs data from the same place everyone else does - the government. If Romney can use that data to beat up Obama, I can use the same data to show that his jobs plan is a pie in the sky campaign promise. Anyway, let me know when you have an actual rebuttal to my claim that Romney's "economic plan" is a campaign talking point that isn't grounded in reality.
Sarah Mitchell
5:42 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Rich Pope yes I live in a wonderful life filled with amazing Blessing's, and it does seem that everything I touch turns to gold. Why because I work hard for everything. God said. There are rewards in your labor, and for me that's been so true. Now when I say hard work I mean hard work, that's up at 6:00AM to feed my Chickens and Turkeys, Fresh water 5 kinds of lettuce grapes, strawberry's watermelon. Corn and crimped oats. Then off to work. I have a very fun and exciting business, I do online sales, communicating with customers all over the world. I also sell Nikken magnetic mattress and wrap's. I also handle Real Estate Transactions, so as you can see I have a lot of work, its this way every day, and I love it.
PaulRevere
6:06 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah:
You do have a wonderful work-life. Everything you touch turns to Gold.
You must be in that 1% class?
Are you paying your FAIR share of Taxes?
Sarah Mitchell
6:12 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Paul Revere Yes I do in fact I just wrote the check a week ago, am I one of the 1%? No I am not, but I am working hard to get there. I can say this thou as strange as it may sound the more I give away the more the Lord Bless's me, so I love to contribute.
Devon Seddon
10:58 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
You're right, they get their info from the same place as everyone else. As a matter of fact that same information comes across my desk, yet they shape it into whatever they want & discard the rest. THAT'S how I know.
I'll use it again, because it's the perfect example, you have all of these media people that lied to you about the Freeh report, which they didn't read, and gave you Louie Freeh as someone credible when he isn't even close. Get that? No background check on Louie Freeh, no questions as to why he only spoke with ONE of the FIVE principals in the case, and completely ignoring everything that was in the report.
Not to mention, ESPN/ABC, who continue to pound Joe Paterno's "cover-up", when the report (if they had read it would know) doesn't indicate anything of the sort. AND this is all while ESPN is sitting on a tape for 8 years, of the wife of a pedophile-assistant-coach on the Syracuse basketball team, admitting that he was a pedophile. ESPN covered that up (most likely because there is an inordinate number of Syracuse grads that work for ESPN/ABC) and is BY FAR more guilty of covering for a child-molester than Joe Paterno.
They Lie.
Devon Seddon
6:17 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
NCK
Let me know when you realize that you are still falling (even with hindsight & no results) for a 4-year old failing promise of Redistribute The Wealth (to that list of 1%ers I gave you, I guess), Hope & Change.
Let me know when you realize that you could use those as teaching examples of how to define pie-in-the-sky campaign speak that has no substance & doesn't even bother to address a single issue, or suggestion of how to fix it.
Sarah Mitchell
6:58 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
The fact is the Country was worse off 4 years ago, before President Obama took office, and yes its better today then it was then. Here is what was going on in 2008 The largest Job loss in Americas history.>>The hemorrhaging of American jobs accelerated at a record pace at the end of 2008, bringing the year's total job losses to 2.6 million or the highest level in more than six decades. The total number of unemployed Americans rose by 632,000 to 11.1 million.>> With all this it is getting better, it takes time to overcome a recession, and we are doing good, considering all things, I do think its pitiful that Congress failed to work between party lines for the sake of the Nation, they have proven to be incompetent, and have failed to do what was right for the American people. Congress has the lowest rating ever in US history.
Holston Black Jr.
9:49 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Sarah, you have a good heart, to continue to try and make sense to these people!! I take pride in people like you and President Obama who continue to fight for the good of America in spite of the obstacles from those who don't think but just hate.
Rockwood 25
4:17 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Amen.
Rich Pope
5:28 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah may have a good heart but she has a terrible brain! What color is the sky in your world Sarah? Do ponies eat rainbows and poop butterflies where you're from?
Jim Aspen
9:01 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
There are less people employed today than four years ago. That is not success, that is failure.
Sarah Mitchell
8:37 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Your Wrong, 4 years ago when President Obama took office our Country was losing ten's of thousands of job's>>The economy was collapsing at its fastest rate since the Great Depression when Obama took office. In his second month he got Congress to pass a jobs stimulus bill worth about $900 billion. This helped stop the collapse and heightened the first spike in job growth. But the Republicans blocked more stimulus and by August 2010, falling stimulus spending began reducing job growth. Had Congress worked with President Obama we would have had a much better outcome, we are doing a lot better now, the job market has made a turn for the better, the stimulus is working.
PaulRevere
4:40 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Sarah:
You must work for the Government, or you sell to the Government.
Where do you suppose "stimulus" money comes from.
Obama did not Pay one penney for anything. USA does not have any cash.
It's like you going to the bank loan and paying your mortgage. You are up to date on Mortgage, but you pile on more debt coming due another month.
Obama supported the unemployed and paid for 1st time homes and paid for Auto Clunkers and college cost -WITH BORROWED MONEY. supported Unemployed with borrowed money.
Do you understand that.?
A False working environment is here.
Of course, if you work for the State or any Government , your pay comes from the People who are out of jobs and taken decreases to stay employed.
That is why YOU think the Stimulus is working.
Get the Facts. The only reson why jobs are holding is because the real workers in AMerica have taken substantial Pay cuts to keep their families afloat.
Obama has mortgaged OUR FUTURE to stop a necessary recession.
We needed a Recess, and he took the easiest route of "FREE"
No more responsibility, and people like you are totally hypnotized as to where this country is Headed. Download the Summary of Obamacare. Read it (only 12 pages)
Be informed as to what it will cost starting in 2014 as every employer will be faced with major lay-off decisions.
Wake-Up.
Rockwood 25
4:22 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Plus the stimulus passed was much smaller than the many bipartisan economists estimated as needed to effectively "prime the pump" of the economy. It certainly helped but all would have been pleasantly surprised if the amount really did the job required. It's like our drought. Some water will help, but less than the required amount isn't going to undo the damage it suffered. A farmer knows just about how many inches of water they need and when to make things work. The economists knew this about the reduced stimulus passed. Short term savings for long term pain.
PaulRevere
4:23 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Message to College "Grads"
When will our college Graduates Learn--Maybe "They" should never have gone to college. The President and Government cannot Create any Job.
Ask yourself, "Why Did I go to college"?
over 50% of College Graduates answer --- "To make more money" or to get a better job. Want to tell us what your reason for college is??__________
Most of you never even had a current job to hope for a better job.
So , if you think any President can get "you " a job , keep dreaming. Your college Professors would never discourage you from paying their annual $100,000 by using Government subsidized loans.
Your votes for a President who Never ever had a JOB before becoming president, worries me about your own resume.
What Employer would hire you , if you answer Experience= NONE.
May I suggest all College Grads apply For President of this USA.
His Executive experience was NONE. My did that show as the only answer to America's problem has been---Give it FREE. Borrow the money.
Geez! And there are still young unemployed Grads waiting for the Messiah to create his job!
Cody Baker
12:58 am on Monday, September 24, 2012
they may not directly create my job but they sure as hell can regulate me out of one!
Sarah Mitchell
5:55 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
PaulRevere Lets take us back to 2008 what was President Obama to do? he had no choice but to help the automakers, and cash for clunkers was a success. The big 3 automakers are doing great, adding new jobs every day, this was a shot in the arm that worked, and is working today. Its interesting to hear people like yourself complain about the economic fallout, when yet it was caused by your very own party. President Obama is not to blame, for the failures of the G.W. Bush administration. Lets go back and see a war that was based on weapons of mass destruction, when there was none. WHO MADE OFF LIKE FAT CATS >>>>http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0403-10.htm >>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/>> the fact is the Republicans have Worship the Rich and despise the Poor. Paul Ryan favorite author Ayn Rand, and lets not forget Grover Norquist this man created a document, that Republicans agreed upon that all would swear not to raise tax's on the rich. 97% Republicans signed. Sad to say G.W Bush Dick Cheney created a fear out of 911 to deceive America, this fear then set up a standard, that would demoralize the American Dream, and cause a major collapse, but this wasn't enough for the Republican party they wanted to keep this standard, so they created an all out attack on the very first African American President by making claims that he was a terrorist and Muslim Which is Lie
Rich Pope
6:25 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Cash for Clunkers was not a success. When people traded-in their cars, the majority purchased foreign vehicles. And taxpayers got screwed out of a lot of money saving GM. We didn't have any choice? Yes we did. We could have let GM fail like any other business that doesn't make the right decisions. Let the markets decided what products are produced. Let the markets decided which companies stay in business and which companies fail. Quit blaming G.W. Bush for our countries problems. Quit blaming the GOP for Obama's failures as a president.
Sarah Mitchell
8:05 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Rich Pope your wrong. G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney has created the deepest deficit America has ever seen, and that Sir is a Fact. President Obama has made huge strides, considering the loses, you apparently have an underlying issue your not acknowledging.
Rich Pope
5:29 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah, you need to be medicated.
Tim Millerick
5:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah,
The only problem with your theory is that the President/VP doesn't control spending. That is the job of congress. So I ask you - who had control of congress in 2007-2008 prior to great recession? That would be democrats. They could have stopped Bush's spending on the wars, but didn't...
RE: cash for clunkers, I bet the shareholders of GM that were screwed out of their money in the 'recovery' don't look at it the same way you do.
Also, all of the cars that were turned in, even if they were in good condition were scrapped, and sent to China as raw material. Ask any used car dealer how that worked out them.
Rich Pope
6:37 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Obama, why should we re-elect you?
Did you think it enough to be “likeable”?
Did you believe it sufficed to be “cool”?
You once promised command of the land and the seas,
But for four years you’ve played us for fools!
Bernanke’s molesting our printing press.
Tax Cheat Geithner never had any plans.
And we found you’d betrayed us and lied to us.
When you claimed we’d “unite” at your hands!
You still haven’t a clue of ONE GOOD THING to do,
To spend less, create jobs, ease our days.
You just leave your chair EMPTY, launch your Media whores,
And go golfing in a Choom** induced haze.
You made food stamps a “way of life”, you degraded our fisc*,
You bowed lower and lower each day.
To the tyrants and despots whose great goal in life,
Was to kill the American Way.
Hundreds of Billions were raped from our Seniors,
Something not seen since “Peter robbed Paul”,
Your “solutions” cause crises in energy and
Food—our “economy” is now worse than stalled.
You said, “I’ll do it in three or I’m outta here”.
Now it’s, "This country OWES me another four”.
But since you spit on our soldiers and crippled our land,
We’d be crazy to let you “help” more!
We reject you, we reject your Media whores,
Who STILL claim every day you’re “THE ONE”.
We have learned we must heed the true Lord of this land--
He with true power to heal--God’s own Son.
RDBet
8:55 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
You really are losing it. Such a frustrated dude. Maybe Romney will win and cut the taxes to zero and we'll have utopia for eternity.
martin, bob
7:45 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Obama The great divider
Sarah Mitchell
8:09 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Bob Martin and what are you? You need to come up with something other then your one line spit venom, and hate attitude.
Rich Pope
5:31 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah, please tell all of us...How is a job created? If you were president, how would you "create jobs"? Let us hear your ideas on this matter.
martin, bob
9:59 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Obamas "Magic Calculator" does not contain a factor for JOBS.
PaulRevere
10:42 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
GM did not save any jobs.
$60Bil wasted on putting money in the pockets of already RICH Auto workers.
Paying for their pensions and Medical.
GM gets $9,000 from the Govt for every Volt sold. (Ford )0-$
GM Does not pay any Income taxes on their profits (over $1.5Bil not paid.
If GM would have filed Normal Bankruptcy-- More Jobs and Families who lost their life Savings from Bonds would have been saved.
Chrysler was given $15B to pay off all the unions and then sold to Fiat for $1
USA lost all $15B.
Every one of you who thinks Obama Saved GM and Chysler better study Financing and understand OBAMA BORROWED EVERY PENNY OF HIS DUMB BAILOUT.
WE WILL ALL LOSE the $30B that GM still owes us and will never pay.
GM will be out of business in 6 years. They are already down to only having $15Bil
left of the $60Bil OBAMA gave them .
Sarah Mitchell
8:13 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
PaulRevere your WRONG again. Sounds to me YOUR the one who needs to research the facts.The auto bailout proposal from the Big 3 auto companies totaled $34 billion in government loans. In return, the companies promised to fast-track development of energy-efficient vehicles, and consolidate operations. GM and Ford agreed to streamline the number of brands they produced. They also won agreements from the UAW union to delay contributions to a health trust fund for retirees and reduce payments to laid-off workers. The three CEO's agreed to work for $1 a year and sell their corporate jets. >>GM received $6 billion through GMAC, which became a bank holding company. Congress first explored whether a planned bankruptcy reorganization was the best alternative for the companies, but realized that would take too long to implement. Congress was divided on whether to use the $700 billion EESA funds, instead of the $25 billion available from an Energy Department energy-efficient loan program.
Rich Pope
5:31 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Ford didn't take any bail-out money.
Devon Seddon
10:40 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
So it was a bribe to get them on-board with the "green movement" joke?
Or was it that 100 year-old car companies honestly couldn't make any money?
A 100 year old company that can't make money deserves to go out of business.
PaulRevere
11:07 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
WHAT DO THESE HAVE TO DO WITH JOBS
Gave $4,000 for auto buyers. Clunker program.
Gave $8,000 for buying a home (not nec it be new usedHome qualified)
Gave $billions for college tuitions assistance.
Gave $billions for unemployment extensions (over 2 years)
Stole over $1trill from retired by letting workers not pay their fair share of SocSecTaxes
(That's the great payroll tax cuts he will tell you about in his speech)
It will all come from stealing social security receipts and give it right back to the workers. That's called off BUDGET SPENDING FOLKS. Obama IS out of Control.
Look at his aggressive speeches (a MAN POSSESSED)
You WILL all pay to support this country with massive taxes coming in 2014.
Remember: Paul Revere has warned you.
"I" "I" "I" "I" (that's --eye)
Not one time does Obama ever start a sentence with the word "WE"
That's what we called "cocky" in my days.
A true Regime is forming right before your eyes.
This message is not for all you Single woman who cannot find a Husband to support you.
This message is not for the Teachers and city hall, and public service workers who do not understand what financial hardship is about.
Their idea of better off today is YES, because they watch their own be layed off as they continue to get raises.
Any of that group that thinks they will vote Dem to keep maintain entitlements & pay will eventually FALL when the 1% is "sponged" to zero.
That's when the regime starts taxing the 99%.
Need any clearer!
PaulRevere
11:23 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
SARAH: Here is your debt proof. (google it)
Debt Information: Sept 2012 (Note our Debt is made up of 2 types)
Public Debt=$11.2Tril
InterGovt =$ 4.8Tril (this is the debt that rises on every Payroll tax cut) (steals)
TOTAL =$16Tril (under Obama)
History of Blame?
PublicDebt 1992 =$6Tril (End Bush1)
PublicDebt 2000 =$5.6Tril (End Clinton)
PublicDebt 2008 =$6.3Tril (End Bush2)
PublicDebt 2012 =$11.2Tril End OBAMA 1st term)
Bush PublicDebt increased less than $1Tril in 8 years = $5.6Tril to $6.3Tril
Obama PublicDebt has increased $5tril since 2008.
This country has no recovery because the President has borrowed to pay for everything .
e.g Did you ever charge a new Refrigerator, a trip, a car?
Did your debts go up or down after you charged? let me answer YES!
WELCOME TO OBAMAVILLE! Because that's exactly what he has done for 4 years.
$5Trillion dollars vs. $2tril of BUSH.
4 years 8 years.
None of the things he says he did were paid for. Can't you understand that?
We are broke! The day to pay these is coming (Like the British!)
The 50% of this country that Works in a private job are the only ones left to pay it.
Unless all the Freebies and welfare and enormous Public worker pay comes down, America will fail.
Sarah Mitchell
8:20 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Get the facts: Chrysler is done. It has repaid, early in fact, the outright loans that it was extended, and the government has sold out of its position in Chrysler stock. Some of the projected $1.3 billion loss was lost interest payments that the government otherwise would have realized had Chrysler repaid its loans on schedule through 2017.
It's a done deal, with a gross $1.3 billion loss. Factored against the tax revenue that the government would have otherwise lost were Chrysler's employees to have displaced in a liquidation, as they would have been, and repayment of principal 6 years early, in retrospect it wasn't a bad deal.
Sarah Mitchell
8:23 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Both GM and Chrysler WERE sent into bankruptcy. With their debt levels, no bankruptcy court would ever have approved ongoing Chapter 11 without DIP, and their Chapter 11 filings would automatically have been converted into Chapter 7's, with mandated liquidation. There was no private source of DIP financing at the time, so both companies WOULD have been forced into liquidation. This is not a matter of opinion.
Both companies DID improve their business models, significantly, as a result. Both have far lower break-even points now than they had pre-bankruptcy.
Both companies DID get relief from the UAW, via it agreeing to assume all liability for retiree health benefits going forward as well as much lower starting rates of pay for new hires and reduced benefit packages for the same.
GM is currently trading at $27.34, which is about 17% off of its IPO price, not 50%.
PaulRevere
1:00 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah:
You can spew "ignorance and untruth's" all you want.
GM today is $21 per share. Chrysler does not exists as a US Company anymore.
Obama Gave GM $60Bil (not $34b)
Chrysler was given apprx $15Bil.
Any reader can google that -- they are facts.
Now Obama has LOST the $15B he gave to Chrsler, it's GONE!
Fiat now own Chrysler (they paid $1dollar) for it. Obama effectively stole and bankrupted many American Family lives who had invested in Bonds of GM and Chrysler. (Billions of dollars Lost by American Families) And you say he saved an industry. CHRYSLER IS GONE!
GM should have gone into bankruptcy in the courts. That is Your opinion as DIP (Debtor in possession) does not have to take place for that.
So you are wrong --It is an opinion of yours. It is a spin that obama needs to justify his "ignorance of the Capitalistic system of Failure".
The courts would have negated immediately ALL pensions and union contracts. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM and obama just did something No other President would have even considered. The President of the US IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO PICK and choose Public company survivors while "screwing innocent investors."
Now GM reports a very misleading profit of $ 3.2B and (PAID NO INCOME TAX)
Ford reports a profit of $3.6B and pays $1.2B in taxes.
So GM is left with $3.2B to pay their buddies while Ford is left with $2.4B to reinvest.
Two auto companies earning the same profit , while GM gets another Taxpayer tax forgiveness. Is that competition?
PaulRevere
1:10 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah, Here is more:
Want more comparisons.
Ford actually had $8B profits before paying appx $5B Interest cost.
So Ford who did not screw their bondholders actually earned $8B to GM $3.2B in 2012 (6 mo). GM had practically NO interest like FORD. As GM OBAMA screwed the bondholders. THESE ARE FACTS Not opinions.
GM is priced at $21 while Ford is priced at $10 per share.
Which price is correct in a competitive market? What will happen when the Free tax subsidy runs out on GM?
What will happen when GM burns through all it's $60B in Govt. payoffs to support union legacy pensions and medical.?
What will happen to GM when they need more money to buy new equipment to keep producing updated cares.? VOLTS! Why did our Obama give GM an add'l $9000 for every Volt sold? all additional funding to keep GM alive.
Sarah: GM is dead unless they do what the courts would have done .
IMMEDIATE Tearing up of every union contract.
Sarah Mitchell
8:26 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Just a reminder to those "Obama-bashers" out there...It was BUSH, not OBAMA who signed the Auto Bailout in 2008...But i'm sure you'll just ignore the truth and continue to bash him for using taxpayer dollars to save his weathly freinds at GM....
Bush announces $17.4 billion auto bailout (Dec 2008)
PaulRevere
3:19 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah:
Are you FOR or Are You Against Auto Bailouts?
Now your giving CREDIT TO BUSH! for helping the Auto industry-Is that right?
Of course, Back to Blaming Bush when you can't win the argument.
Frankly, $17B in Bush's help is a far cry from the ultimate $75B that Obama actually spent and wasted.
I knew as soon as you ran out of answering the Debt causes, Auto Clunker cost,
House buyers cost, Volt subsidies, Tax forgiveness, competition unfairness,
extended unemployment worthlessness YOU WOULD BE BACK TO BUSH.
You are a hopeless case of "ignorance in this country"
Sarah, You have no intention of discussing the truth. You cannot handle the truth.
If, I am wrong, than would you please list one thing that Obama did to Create a private job. (NOT SAVE JOBS).
As President or As a Community organizer.
Sarah Mitchell
8:28 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
PaulRevere you got to get the facts....President George W. Bush stepped in Friday to keep America's auto industry afloat, announcing a $17.4 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler, with the terms of the loans requiring that the firms radically restructure and show they can become profitable soon.
"If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy," Bush said at the White House, in remarks carried live by the national broadcast networks. "In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action. The question is how we can best give it a chance to succeed."
Bush said that "bankruptcy now would lead to a disorderly liquidation of American auto companies."
"My economic advisers believe that such a collapse would deal an unacceptably painful blow to hardworking Americans far beyond the auto industry. It would worsen a weak job market and exacerbate the financial crisis," he said. "It could send our suffering economy into a deeper and longer recession."
PaulRevere
1:45 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah:
Play your games, it does not change a fact.
America has millions of Autos being sold by many very large auto companies based HERE! in the USA.
No President or YOU could ever justify that GM loss would not have been replaced by the other Auto companies. It was unnecessary and only done as a PAYOFF FOR VOTES. that's what I believe-That's opinion!
Evidence the weekly visits by union leaders to the white house.
Evidence their use of the words "We have POWER!"
Reminds me of another world leader who claimed that.
Sarah Mitchell
8:40 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
The Bailout was a success. The big Automakers did not use Bankruptcy as a means to and end, and this was good for all involved. Because it kept the economy from losing thousands of jobs, and pensions that the Union men and women worked their butts off for will not be profit for the Rich, like Mitt Romney has done to thousands of hard working Americans he admitted out of his own mouth that Pensions were his profit, he took those pensions, dismantled the company filed bankruptcy, then shipped the Business to China and or Indonesia for cheap labor. I am just appalled at the callous attitude of this man to cheat a man out of his pension is just disgusting. This is no doubt a form off a white collar crime.
Sarah Mitchell
1:22 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
PaulRevere Your Wrong. Again better do your research.
Rich Pope
5:33 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah, I think you left your helmet in the resource room.
Sarah Mitchell
5:50 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Rich Pope what a terrible thing to say, I need to be medicated, is this what you want to do with people who don't agree with your ideology, medicate them? that is so disrespectful. We are holding a dialogue that even thou we all have our own opinions its should be understood to respect the others point. You left the page?
Devon Seddon
4:29 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Quick clarification:
There is ideology, then there is fact.
Ideology without fact, is fiction.
Ideology that fails to review it's results, is Liberal.
PaulRevere
5:40 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Sarah:
I've done my research
Yes I'm tired of Reseaching YOUR Reseach.
Sarah Mitchell
5:59 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
I guess so your attention span is about 1 minute.
Sarah Mitchell
6:07 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
A Tea-Party Radical wakes up Women to a whole new reality >“Legitimate Rape”
Akin’s now-infamous comments that a woman’s body has a defense mechanism that keeps her from getting pregnant if she was the victim of “legitimate rape” have gone viral and been roundly criticized by liberals and conservatives alike. "It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, [rape resulting in pregnancy is] really rare,” Akin said in an interview with KTVI-TV. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something, I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child." Almost immediately Akin tried to backtrack, saying he misspoke. “In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year,” Akin said in a statement.
Sarah Mitchell
6:11 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Women are waking up to the Crazed Ideology of the right-wing tea-party Republicans. If they get there way women will be bare foot pregnant, the rights of women and multicultural nationals are at jeopardy, if this right-wing tea-party crazed lunatics get office, they will take the rights of women back to the 1920's
Devon Seddon
3:58 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
You mean widely taken out of context & twisted.
You guys keep repeating this trying to make it somehow mean something else, (like Karl) as if no woman has ever claimed rape when there wasn't one.
That would be a rape that was illegitmate, no matter how you stretch it.
So like a good servant, you omitted the inconvenient parts to fit your politics.
Stress effects a woman's cycle, always has.
Stress is created by stressful situations.
Legitimate Rape is a stressful situation.
Ergo, Legitimate Rape creates stress.
Stress & Shock can both put your body into a "coping" state, in which many of the body's operations become altered.
I would imagine there would be some stress in falsely (illegitimately) accusing someone of rape, but likely for different reasons.
It's amazing how all of these "my body, my right" people know very little about said body.
Plus, None of that rhetoric can even exist unless you dismiss those young ladies that have ruin lives, like our shining example at Duke.
Ooops, Sorry, I forgot we were supposed to pretend like these things don't exist while you're hating on Republicans.
Devon Seddon
4:26 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
Now you're just willfully participating in the hate-mongering.
Please cite the legislation that is being proposed that would cause women to be barefoot & pregnant. You're a left-wing-built idiot, but it's not too late to fix it. You just have to want to see the truth.
Bearing false witness isn't a new trick, the downfall is, it only works on the weak-minded.
Earl Higgins
8:18 am on Monday, September 24, 2012
Devon, do you have any facts or studies to back up your specious claim that women don't, or even can't get pregnant from rape? Remember, outrageous claims require outrageous amounts of evidence. Just because you keep repeating something doesn't mean it's just true because you say it is.
Way back where I come from, we have a word for people who say things like that, and you wouldn't like it, trust me.
Sarah Mitchell
6:16 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Todd Akin spoke was being groomed by Paul Ryan, its all part of a grander plan. Todd Akin was saying what the party believes and what they will do with women's rights
Devon Seddon
4:20 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012
You don't know what he said, only what you can twist it to & tie to the whole party.
You don't even know what your own party is about, much less the other party.
Oh, and by the way, those folks who are supposed to be all about women, are being protested right now at the DNC by the group NOW, because they won't allow women to bring their kids onto the convention floor, and they provided ZERO daycare for those mothers.
They must have been too busy convincing those like you that they are FOR women, to actually BE... FOR women.
They are using your emotions against you, just an FYI, they can't do that with your brain (or most brains anyway). Maybe use your brain instead of your emotions to think sometimes.
Ex: You keep talking about what the big bad Republicans will do if they get into office, that you will continue to let the people actually screwing you (and all of those people you claim to "care" about) continue to screw you. It's the very definition of "fear-mongering" & proof it works.
Look at results.
5.5% to 8.4% unemployment
100% increase in those on food stamps
Fair Housing Regulatory.....
I know you won't do the research, but if you actually, really want to, I'll get you tons of facts, numbers & results you can look at. That way, maybe with a few facts instead of feelings, you might be able to post something with some substance instead of repeating the exact asinine, baseless, rhetoric of accusations & unfounded claims that you're conditioned to.
V. Scheurich
11:28 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
The Democratic Party and their ideology and rhetoric and liberal policies have now led America and the world to riots and death.
The Leader of the free world, Barack Obama, does NOT care about America and actually does NOT care what happens to Americans. He talks a good game but won't walk his talk:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/09/13/unreal_obama_skipped_daily_intel_briefing_immediately_following_assassination_of_us_ambassador
Earl Higgins
11:53 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
Nice try, Mitt.
RDBet
12:09 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
If this weren't so sad (Mitt trying to use this for political gain) I would have to laugh ---they even call it a tipsheet. As in, "let us tell you tea partiers what to think and what to "cut and paste" on this topic." .... And then they are off to the internets.
Elizabeth
12:12 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The President IS skipping many of the intelligence meetings.
http://g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/GAI-Report-Presidential-Daily-Brief-A-Time-Based-Analysis-FINAL-DOC.pdf
He also hasn't met with the job council in 6 months.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/obama-jobs-council_n_1684221.html
Caffeinated
12:25 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Wow, that is disgusting. Bush attended *every* PDB leading up to 9/11...
RDBet
12:43 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
We are still trying to sort out and learn from past terrorists attacks during presidencies, and conspicuous-looking intelligence reports. Do we even know what Reagan knew before the Marine barracks were bombed in Lebanon? I don't even want to bring up 9-11. FDR and Pearl Harbor?
Then here we have an American jumping to conclusion the day after the attacks. I know we have the 24/7 news cycle -but it is going to take a while to indict the President over this.
Mittens candidacy needed a boost. Sorry this is his chosen route. Shameful.
Elizabeth
1:16 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
So you're okay with the President skipping intelligence meetings and not attending jobs council meetings, but it is "shameful" for anyone to point it out?
That is some interesting logic, RDBet
Caffeinated
1:25 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Elizabeth, what are PDB's? Does the President receive this information outside of the in-person briefings? What about the meetings themselves marks them as necessary?
Also, can you explain the Job Council and it's function?
Elizabeth
1:45 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The President set up the Jobs Council and named Jeffrey Immelt (sp?) (GE chairman) as its head. See the link below for details.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/advisory-boards/jobs-council
As far as the PDB's it is my understanding the the President receives a printed copy of the report and according to WH spokespeople, he reads them. The value of the in-person meeting is that the President can ask questions and/or clarification about intel. supplied in the report.